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StSav
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:59:23 AM
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We have added students while logged on as administration and given teachers the security clearance but they still cannot access the students. Is there another step we need to do?

Thanks

dberting
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:19:57 AM
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Joined: 8/27/2007
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Location: Toowoomba

This will depend on how you have created the students. 

Class Security

The first thing to check is whether the students are part of a class in the current year.  If so, the security on the class will apply to the students.  To check the class security, right-click on the class in the left pane and select the Class Properties.  Then go to the security tab and ensure that you have full access in the Allow column.  Then, click OK.

Student Security

The security at the class level will combine with the security at the student level.  If you have provided Class Security you do not need to provide individual student security because the students will inherit this from their class.  If this is the case, you may like to clear out the student security.  To provide security at an individual student level, right-click on the student in the right pane and select Student Properties.  Then go to the security tab and give the required authority (remember that this will combine with the class security).  Then, click OK.

Allow vs Deny

The last thing to check is the Allow vs Deny.  The rule with this is that Deny always overrides Allow.  If the teacher has, either in the Class or Student Properties, got a "Deny" ticked for a certain security level then that will override any "Allow"s for that security level.  One trick to check is that you haven't ticked a "Deny" for the "All Teachers" group.  Because every teacher is part of the "All Teachers" group, this will always count as a "Deny" against the logged on teacher and will override any of their "Allow"s.  If you do not want All Teachers to have access to your class or student, simply do not add them in the Security tab.  As a general rule, try to use"Allow"s for general cases, such as allowing all teachers to view a class or the class teacher to have full control of the class, and "Deny"s for specific cases, such as access of a specific teacher or to a specific student.

I hope this helps.  Please let me know how you go.



David Berting
Software Development Manager
JDM Partners
StSav
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:30:59 PM
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Joined: 2/6/2008
Posts: 3

Administration created the student in All Student and then has moved the students in a class. The teacher has rights to the class but cannot see the added students. Administration can see them. The teacher has Allow ticked in every box when looking at class properties.

Is there something else I can try?

Thanks

 

dberting
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:52:56 PM
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Joined: 8/27/2007
Posts: 15
Location: Toowoomba

On the class Properties, you have said that the teacher has every "Allow" box ticked, which is good.  Is the "All Teachers" group on the Class Properties?  If so, which boxes are ticked?

If you go into the Student Properties (right-click on the student), is the teacher in the security tab here? If so, which boxes are ticked?  Also, is the "All Teachers" group on the student properties?  If so, which boxes are ticked.

Assuming you want the class teacher to have full control, ensure that all of the "Allow" boxes are ticked for that teacher in the Class Properties and that no "Deny" boxes are ticked for "All Teachers" group in the Class Properties.  Also ensure that the teacher is not added to the Student Properties and that either the "All Teachers" group is not on the Student Properties or it has no "Deny" boxes ticked.

Are you working in 2008?  Make sure that 2008 is selected in the Current Year dropdown when you log on as both Administrator and the teacher.

Please let me know how this goes.



David Berting
Software Development Manager
JDM Partners
StSav
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:39:42 PM
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The allow boxes are ticked on the class and student properties. I added All Teachers to the class properties and ticked Allow in each box. Deny is not ticked in any box. We are both working in 2008. Still no luck...

dberting
Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:39:48 PM
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Joined: 8/27/2007
Posts: 15
Location: Toowoomba

Is the student a member of any other classes?  Go into Student Properties and click on the Classes tab.  Check the security on all of the classes listed, or remove the student from any classes they shouldn't be a member of.

 



David Berting
Software Development Manager
JDM Partners
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